Opinion: Sebastian Burns, Atif Rafay and the Rafay Murders

So if you’re reading this, you’re probably researching the latest information on the Rafay murders.

Why? A stroke of curiosity?

Guarantee: They’re guilty and will be in prison for the rest of their days.

In typical butthurt WASP fashion, the PR machine for Sebastian Burns is in full swing. In 2007, a documentary was released by Tiffany Burns, sister of Sebastian Burns and news reporter turned indie film star.

The documentary was a shill for the Burns case. It only offered seconds long segments of the sting videos. It’s hard to find primary sources on the case. The closest you can get is Injustice Busters, which instead of letting you make your own mind, self-servingly hyperanalyze every transcript line by line, leave out the real transcript and selectively forget things like:

  • Their ample opportunity to be seen at the theatre to leave early
  • Timeline: they have 18 minutes to drive home from the theater, and 3 minutes home to call 911. In this time they saw the bodies, determined it was a burglary found out a cd-rom and VCR was stolen.
  • It’s a burglary, and they’re waiting outside the house.
  • Going to the movie store after the day a horrific murder? lol? wtf?
  • Fleeing. Yep they didn’t just go on a vacation, they had a whole 8 year long appeal, delaying the inevitable. (the case law was also inevitable though, to be fair)
  • Accomplice and high school friend Jimmy Miyoshi, who was at the murder scene, heard of the conspiracy to commit the murder and use a bat.
  • Participation in a high school play about where two kids get away with murder.
  • Sebastian Burns once said, “I want to try to kill someone one day, to see how, how it would feel. Because I think I would find it enjoyable.”
  • Confessed. Arrogantly, and it wasn’t based of open source intel, no one else but they and police knew it was:
    • Metal bat (Sebastian)
    • Shower to wash away the evidence (Sebastian)
    • Staging a break-in (Atif)
  • They got involved in a mob and had no regrets.

The Burns family, in my opinion, is spamming the internet and media sources with cruft about their case tied together by a false confession. I believe their interpretation of false lies in the wily, elaborate, decadent methods law enforcement use to illicit the truth, as opposed to the substance of the confession being false.

Confession Coerced out of Fear?

The defense strategy theorized the confession by RCMP was illicited out of fear, something jurors would have to determine. You be juror #13:

Sebastian and Atif w/ Head mobster: "'Have a Beer"

There were 12 jurors who voted to convict. It’s been like, 4 years since the trial ended and none of them have any second thoughts. In fact, the comments by the jurors noted how cold and callous of a killer Burns was.

They had a better alternative. Criminal Braggadocio their expert Michael Levine called it. It had multiple benefits:

  • Allow an expert witness on criminal bragging
  • Better to appeal with
  • More palatable, because they weren’t scared. Perhaps plausible. You could proffer they were trying to impress criminals.

Levine used to do undercover work. He uses an ironic term. “Avoiding the exculpatory”. If you are well read on the subject, police always avoid exculpatory data, confirmation bias is one of the principles of investigation.

It’s more than bragging, Burns also clung to his confession as if it was a secret of his that my “end his life”. His Mr. Big sting is described in Blore’s Give Them Enough Rope.

Catching the liars

You will find if you read the web page for Injustice Busters, they find the Reid Technique coercive. If you are a patsy, or overly compliant with authority figures yes they are coercive. However, Reid, Buckley and Inbau’s book Criminal Interrogations and Confessions offers a veritable cornucopia of lie detection techniques. You as a layman can buy this and watch people perps talk to see if  they’re telling the truth.

Issue: Outraged at Miyoshi for snitching, or mad at him for lying?

How hard was it for Atif to sit and listen to Miyoshi’s testimony? “It was enormously difficult. I think it was difficult for him as well,” says Atif. “As I say, I am outraged that he did it. But at the same time, I reserved my real outrage for the people who forced him to do it.

Anyone would be mad if their friend betrayed them as it’s treacherous. Miyoshi is on the floor giving testimony about 1.) Being at the murder scene 2.) the conspiracy and planning of it. He’s not calling Miyoshi a liar, which means he’s speaking the truth and he’s butthurt about it.

False Conviction

They were arrested in 1995.

They stayed in Canada and appealed extradition to US for 6 years (U.S. vs Burns) to March 2001.

They spent another 3 years in delays.

Case went to trial in 2004. Lasted 6 months.

They didn’t get rail roaded, they had almost a decade to proffer reasonable doubt.

Archives

Blore, Shawn. Give Them Enough Rope. 2011-01-15. URL:http://www.shawnblore.com/Pieces/VanMag/Rope/Rope1.htm. Accessed: 2011-01-15. (Archived by WebCite®at http://www.webcitation.org/5vlPoKjcn)

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3 Responses to Opinion: Sebastian Burns, Atif Rafay and the Rafay Murders

  1. Pingback: Breaking Intel: Immunized, Confessed Murder Suspect wants “Jihad” « Criminal Intelligence

  2. Deirdre says:

    THANK GOODNESS! You know, Sebastian’s sister and the way she acted during 48 hours? And now she is cashing in on the triple murder? Oh, but if someone writes a different opinion on her Facebook page, she deletes and blocks! She has to know her brother is friggen guilty! I could not believe her interview! All made and smiling, it was sickening! Her 28 year old “kid” brother spoke of those murders without a gun to his head, PROUDLY and laughed while the Autistic girl needed more “batwork” and these two are getting a new trial????????????????? I am disgisted even more now then when I first saw 48 hours! It was Tiffany Burns attitude, mugging all pretty and sweet for the camera shows me how pathetic she is. Her brother is a murdering sociopath! At least Atif Rafay showed his remorse and GUILT during his speech at sentencing….but Sebastian spoke hours long, and proved he had no remorse and could care less about the murdered family……even if he killed them or not. This case makes me LIVID.

  3. Ian Wilson says:

    I have just seen the program on this case.

    Regarding Burns – It was stated, and clear to see, that Burns was a narcissist and arrogant.

    Where did he get this from? Well when you see his father interviewed you have the answer.

    I am not defending Burns monstrous crime in any way, and I don’t believe in blaming the parents for everything – but in this case his father is definitely an influence in this arrogance.

    I have rarely, even in a politician, seen such an arrogant, self serving individual as his father.

    As for Rafay, this stinking scum, who giggled on video when talking about murdering his autistic sister, will hopefully get what he deserves in prison.

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